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Jonathan Tucker | Mom's Car
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· 52 min · 11,606 words · 289 timestamped sections
This is the full, timestamped transcript of "Jonathan Tucker | Mom's Car", an episode of Armchair Expert with Dax Shepard published November 10, 2026 (52 min, about 11,606 words). It mentions 61 people, works and ideas, including Dak Shepard, Jonathan Tucker, Kingdom, Aaron Weakley, American Hostage.
What this episode is about
Jonathan Tucker discusses his career, notable roles, and the irony of his past interviews happening in a car, touching on projects like Westworld, City on a Hill, Kingdom, The Virgin Suicides, Texas Chainsaw Massacre, and American Hostage, while briefly venting about a Hollywood shopping center.
Key takeaways
- Car-first interviews create intimate vibes, but risk losing studio polish and consistent lighting budgets.
- Tucker’s car-spot nostalgia undercuts studio relocations, revealing how environment subtly shapes authenticity and memory.
- Giving away a car on set doubles as morale-boosting PR and reveals crew loyalty beats big-budget glam.
- The convo’s ADHD energy mirrors online clips: rapid, tactile, and more entertaining than polished, long-form structure.
- Particle-board façades and Vancouver-blue collars: surface aesthetics often reveal deeper real-estate and culture tensions.
Who speaks in this episode?
- Dak Shepard (Host) · 14 min speaking
- Aaron Beman (Host) · 6 min speaking
- Jonathan Tucker (Guest) · 31 min speaking
What is discussed, and when
- – 5:00: Jonathan Tucker, Allstate, Dak Shepard, Aaron Weakley
- – 10:00: Wag, New York, New York, Rover, Jonathan Tucker
- – 15:00: Ford Crown Victoria Police Interceptor, Dak Shepard, Aaron Weakley, Bradenton
- – 20:00: Allstate, Dak Shepard, KCAL 9, Pulp Fiction
- – 25:00: Santa Monica, Uber
- – 30:00: New York, New York, Academy Awards, John's Pizzeria, Central Park
- – 35:00: Uber Eats, Mom's Car, Aldi, Dak Shepard
- – 40:00: Dak Shepard, Kingdom, Los Angeles, Michael K. Williams
- – 45:00: Josh Duhamel, American Hostage, Kingdom, Byron Balasco
- – 50:00: Massachusetts, Boston, Kevin Bacon, American Hostage
- – 51:43: Allstate, Dak Shepard, Jonathan Tucker, Boston
Notable quotes from "Jonathan Tucker | Mom's Car"
Welcome to Mom's Car. I'm Dak Shepard.
about Dak Shepard · atAvailability. All State North American Insurance Company and affiliates, Northbrook, Illinois. We are supported by Uber Eats. Boom, boom, boom. In need of groceries? Uber Eats has you covered.
about Uber · atAll right. So, I bought the car cuz I was shooting in Vancouver.
about Jonathan Tucker · atAaron is one of your top five characters of all time. yeah, it was the first show Dax told me to watch when I got sober, went away [clears throat] for a couple months,.
about Aaron Weakley · atYou know that writer Byron Blasco and I think he's maybe the best writer in the business.
about Byron Balasco · atThat show felt like being American Hostage felt like being a part of like a theater company.
about American Hostage · atWell, if you remember, the first time you and I ever met was in front of Central Park. Kristen's trailer was there, right? That's right. She was friends.
about Central Park · atYeah. I did a staged reading with Jeffrey Dunovan who is a phenomenal actor. He was the star of Burn Notice and was the star of Law and Order recently and he's in Sakario.
about Boston · at
Who and what is mentioned in this episode?
People
- Dak Shepard — Person · Host · 6 mentions · first at
Episode host who interviews Jonathan Tucker, prompts stories and provides commentary throughout. - Jonathan Tucker — Person · Main guest · 5 mentions · first at
Primary interview subject; discusses his acting career, personal stories (home invasion rescue, raffling a Cadillac), business (cannabis retail), and life details. - Aaron Weakley — Person · Co-host / Co-interviewer · 3 mentions · first at
Co-host in the episode (referred to as Best Friend Aaron); contributes questions, reactions, and shared anecdotes. - Byron Balasco — Person · Referenced writer/creator · 1 mention · first at
Canonical spelling; correct attribution - Jon Hamm — Person · Referenced actor · 2 mentions · first at
Canonical spelling; ensures correct attributionCity on a hill. Our favorite. Kingdom, the Virgin Suicides, Texas Chainsaw Massacre, and he is in the new runaway hit with John Ham called American Hostage is tasty. Please…
- Michael K. Williams — Person · Referenced actor/role model · 1 mention · first at
Cited as an example of an actor whose lived experience contributed to powerful performances and authenticity.Yeah. Like these Michael K. Williams, these people, you can tell have had real lives.
- Josh Duhamel — Person · Referenced celebrity / anecdotal subject · 4 mentions · first at
Mentioned in stories about flying with the Thunderbirds and earlier film experiences; compared to other celebrity participants.Yeah. He and Kristen were like lovers.
- Cleatus McFarland — Person · Referenced car/track personality · 1 mention · first at
Mentioned as a YouTuber/owner who bought a racetrack and organized a Crown Vic-only race; used to frame a racing anecdote.Are you familiar with this YouTuber, Cletus McFarland? Have you ever seen his stuff?
- Martin Luther King — Person · Historical reference · 1 mention · first at
Used as a metaphor about taking a stand (quote: 'Here I stand. I can do no other.') in the context of artistic authenticity.Yeah. Martin Luther, standing there in front of the church draws a line in the sand. He says, Here I stand. I can do no other. And you have to get to that point. So, like.
- Sam Rockwell — Person · Referenced actor · 1 mention · first at
Used as a persona benchmark — Dax suggests Jonathan could have a 'Sam Rockwell persona' level of career recognition.Very worthy of having a Sam Rockwell persona like what you need is to have be a show like Kingdom that goes onto a streaming platform that people can watch to your point. So that's what I really am desperate to have and I think you know I.
- Minka Kelly — Person · Referenced co-star · 1 mention · first at
Referenced in relation to other cast members and her current TV role (Ransom Canyon).They just huge show. They just canceled it weirdly, but it was huge.
- Jeffrey Donovan — Person · Colleague / anecdote partner · 1 mention · first at
Canonical spelling; ensure supportedYeah. I did a staged reading with Jeffrey Dunovan who is a phenomenal actor. He was the star of Burn Notice and was the star of Law and Order recently and he's in Sakario.
- Kevin Bacon — Person · A referenced colleague / anecdote subject · 2 mentions · first at
Treat as person with explicit contextBeen on those shots or at least were set there. Have you been there on a show? I shot the pilot of City on a Hill for Showtime with Kevin Bacon.
- Frank Grillo — Person · Referenced actor · 1 mention · first at
Corrects a misspelling to the known actor nameYou're never going to look like Frank Garillo and be insane.
Companies & orgs
- Ford — Company · Manufacturer referenced · 1 mention · first at
Correct entity type; car manufacturer contextDriver now is what? It's a It's a 2011 Ford Crown Victoria P71 police interceptor. Cop suspensions, cop brakes, cop lights, cop engine, cop everything.
- Public Garden — Company · Location (garden) · 1 mention · first at
Clarify as a real location rather than Boston GardenThe Public Garden. Okay. I know you just did a play in Boston.
- Showtime — Company · Network (referenced) · 1 mention · first at
Correct capitalization and branding of the network mentionedBeen on those shots or at least were set there. Have you been there on a show? I shot the pilot of City on a Hill for Showtime with Kevin Bacon.
- KCAL 9 — Company · Media outlet referenced · 2 mentions · first at
Referenced as having footage (KKAL9/KCAL9) of Jonathan's home-invasion rescue, used to describe public reaction.Okay, now we want the full story. We had the biggest laugh in months this morning when I discovered this KKL9 footage of you. You've got to walk me through June 2024.
- Craigslist — Company · Mentioned marketplace · 1 mention · first at
Platform context for resellingLike 6 months during co. It was just awesome. And then at the end I'm so what am I going to do? Am I going to go on Craigslist and like try to resell this thing and like have to show it a bunch and answer questions? And so I at the end.
- Thunderbirds — Company · Referenced organization / experience · 1 mention · first at
Mentioned in an anecdote about flying with the Thunderbirds (air demonstration squadron) and celebrity participants.And they were we came down. I said, How'd I do? And they go, Oh, you were the best we've ever had. You took the most cheese. The most tea. No, really. you're the most.
- John's Pizzeria — Company · Anecdote location (proposal celebration) · 2 mentions · first at
Referenced as the pizzeria where Dax and his wife celebrated after a proposal; used in humorous anecdote about presentation and appearance.She thought we were going to this fancy restaurant and we proposed there and then, had all of her friends meet us at John's Pizzeria on Bleecker Street and she looked like a million bucks. She was thrilled with how she.
- Netflix, Inc. — Company · Distributor of a project mentioned in context · 2 mentions · first at
Clarify affiliation as distributor in transcript contextSoup to nuts. Tell me about your cannabis business. I find this very fascinating. the show I did for Netflix, I Will Find You, is a limited series.
- Instagram — Company · Referenced social platform · 1 mention · first at
Platform mention; validate as social channelBut my god, that was Yeah, you might have been one of my first follows on Instagram cuz I created an Instagram account soon after that and I've been following you ever since. I was This dude's [ __ ] radical.
Products & tech
- Wag — Product · Discussed app (dog-walking service) · 2 mentions · first at
Referenced as the app Jonathan used to pick up dogs to walk while lonely on set in New York; discussed functionality and experience.At the end of dinner, I open up my app.
- Ford Crown Victoria Police Interceptor — Product · Personal vehicle (daily driver) / anecdote · 2 mentions · first at
Mentioned as Jonathan Tucker's daily driver (2011 Crown Vic P71) and as context for a Crown Vic-only race invitation.Now. So, okay. We talked about the Cadillac. Love it. In your daily driver now is what? It's a It's a 2011 Ford Crown Victoria P71 police interceptor. Cop suspensions, cop brakes, cop lights, cop engine, cop everything.
- Rover — Product · Referenced app (dog service) · 2 mentions · first at
Mentioned alongside Wag as an app for dog walking/sitting; part of the anecdote about Jonathan picking up dogs on demand.So, here's You don't know the Wag app or Rover app? No.
Concepts & topics
- Dip — Concept · Anecdotal prop / cultural habit · 1 mention · first at
Repeatedly referenced in anecdotes about cast members and travel (refers to smokeless tobacco/dip habit among some cast/crew).He shows up with a duffel bag of crab dip. Come to find out, sweet Fergie dips.
Places & events
- Boston — Place · Referenced setting / production location · 3 mentions · first at
Discussed with respect to filming (City on a Hill), theater readings, and Jonathan feeling pride representing Boston and Charlestown authenticity. - Central Park — Place · Meeting location / anecdotal setting · 2 mentions · first at
Meets the described role as a meeting location in the transcript context - Charlestown — Place · Referenced place of origin / cultural background · 1 mention · first at
Jonathan references Charlestown (Charles Town) as his childhood neighborhood and as context for roles (bank robber character) and identity.Unbelievable to me. it just was like the greatest. Yeah. It was incredible. So I grew up in this neighborhood that was known for anybody when I was growing up for like violence and bank robbing. Okay.
- Los Angeles — Place · Referenced home / filming hub · 3 mentions · first at
Referenced as where Jonathan and his family live and as a filming/industry context; also used in anecdotes about LA neighborhoods and KCAL coverage.I guess here's what happened. So there's, we live in a really lovely neighborhood. It's super family oriented, kids everywhere, doors open. It's like idyllic. We also live in LA and there's,.
- Massachusetts — Place · Business / location context · 3 mentions · first at
Referenced as the state where Jonathan invested in a family dairy farm that became a cannabis cultivation/retail business; also location for stores and theater work.Yeah. And I waited and was patient and I somebody came to me and they had a family-owned dairy farm in Massachusetts and it was going out from under and they were they needed capital to basically fund like a wildcatting expedition for a.
- Bradenton — Place · Event location (race) · 1 mention · first at
Correct spelling; maintains event location referenceMhm. And so, we are participating in November in a Crown Vic only race.
- New Jersey (Jersey) — Place · Business location · 1 mention · first at
Location used as a business location reference in evidenceAnd where what is it in New Jersey?
- New York, New York — Place · Referenced production location / personal stay · 5 mentions · first at
Referenced in anecdotes where Jonathan was working on set in New York and used dog-walking apps to combat loneliness.Relative. Some people are scratching, D. So, so I am doing this show in New York and it's a real toxic environment. I'd never really been a part of a toxic environment before.
- Michigan — Place · Place/location reference (state) · 3 mentions · first at
Maintain as location/demonstrate demonym referenceAnd I ironically I feel like for you from Michigan, there was two versions of the guy from Michigan with the neck tattoo. There's the guy who's I'll always be a GM delivering fleet vehicles. Which, by the way, is an.
- Santa Monica — Place · Referenced past residence / anecdote setting · 2 mentions · first at
Dax shares a story about living in a rough Santa Monica apartment and intervening in a street assault; used to illustrate readiness to act barefoot/in pajamas.Six folks living in the same one-bedroom apartment. I adore these people. I run down my stairwell. I come around the corner of our apartment building and I see there's a car parked and two of the kids that are from there, they're now.
- Vancouver — Place · Filming location (referenced) · 1 mention · first at
Location referenced for filmingThey really did. So, I drove the car for like 6 months during co. It was just awesome. And then at the end I'm so what am I going to do? Am I going to go on Craigslist and like try to resell this thing and like have to show it a bunch and.
- Bloomfield Hills — Place · Referenced childhood area · 1 mention · first at
Correct spelling; location referencedIn Michigan, but there was a very kind of amazing experience I had just visiting Aaron one time cuz when I was a kid, my mother would take us on Saturdays or Sundays and she'd…
- Academy Awards — Event · Referenced award-level context · 3 mentions · first at
Used as reference point for prestige (mini award shows compared to Academy Awards) during anecdote about presenting at smaller ceremonies.I did have this moment when I do one moment. I was this is the woman I'm going to marry. You know how they have all these like kind of like mini award shows before the Academy Awards and the Emmys and the Golden Globes?
- Golden Globe — Event · Referenced awards event · 1 mention · first at
Accurate event title and plural formI did have this moment when I do one moment. I was this is the woman I'm going to marry. You know how they have all these like kind of like mini award shows before the Academy Awards and the Emmys and the Golden Globes?
- Gower Street — Place · Local reference · 1 mention · first at
Gower Street is a known Hollywood location referenced in dialogueOh, and Gower. Oh, I know that. In the glitter gulch. That dump of a I have a real animosity against that shopping center. Me too.
- Sunset Boulevard — Place · Local reference · 1 mention · first at
Short reference to an intersection (Sunset and Gower) in a casual opening exchange about locations in Hollywood.Okay. I don't know which one. Sunset and what? Sunset and [ __ ] you. And Gower.
- Emmy Awards — Event · Referenced awards context · 1 mention · first at
Mentioned alongside other awards as part of anecdotes about presenting and industry recognition.I'm going to marry. You know how they have all these like kind of like mini award shows before the Academy Awards and the Emmys and the Golden Globes?
- Ritz — Place · Hotel brand (context implies) · 1 mention · first at
Ambiguity resolved as hotel brand commonly referenced as RitzDid you have like a healing moment? Was it an incredible experience to be where you came from knowing you could be staying at the Ritz if you wanted to?
Media & podcasts
- Kingdom — Media · Referenced TV show (career highlight) · 4 mentions · first at
Discussed as one of Jonathan Tucker's notable credits; praised by hosts and used to illustrate his acting range and recognition.A 87 Cadillac coupe Deville. What a stud. Who gives an interview in a car like that? You know him from Westworld City on a hill. Our favorite. Kingdom, the Virgin Suicides…
- American Hostage — Media · Referenced TV show (recent credit) · 4 mentions · first at
Mentioned as one of Jonathan Tucker's recent projects; hosts praise the show and discuss working environment and cast dynamic. - Mom's Car — Media · Podcast show (episode series) · 3 mentions · first at
Sub-show of Armchair Expert where the interview takes place; branding referenced in the episode.Welcome to Mom's Car. I'm Dak Shepard.
- City on a Hill — Media · Referenced TV show (credit) · 2 mentions · first at
Mentioned among Jonathan Tucker's credits; connected to filming in Boston and personal history.Been on those shots or at least were set there. Have you been there on a show? I shot the pilot of City on a Hill for Showtime with Kevin Bacon.
- The Texas Chain Saw Massacre — Media · Referenced work · 1 mention · first at
Canonical title alignment; maintains reference to filmA 87 Cadillac coupe Deville. What a stud. Who gives an interview in a car like that? You know him from Westworld City on a hill. Our favorite. Kingdom, the Virgin Suicides…
- The Virgin Suicides — Media · Referenced work · 1 mention · first at
Capitalization and work association withJonathan TuckerA 87 Cadillac coupe Deville. What a stud. Who gives an interview in a car like that? You know him from Westworld City on a hill. Our favorite. Kingdom, the Virgin Suicides…
- Westworld — Media · Television credit · 2 mentions · first at
Clear credit reference in contextA 87 Cadillac coupe Deville. What a stud. Who gives an interview in a car like that? You know him from Westworld City on a hill. Our favorite. Kingdom, the Virgin Suicides…
- Pulp Fiction — Media · Cultural reference · 1 mention · first at
Capitalization as media title; metaphor useYeah, like I grabbed the bag and that'll remain a mystery like Pulp Fiction, right? We'll never know.
- When in Rome — Media · Referenced film · 1 mention · first at
Capitalization; film titleHe shows up with a duffel bag of crab dip. Come to find out, sweet Fergie dips.
- Burn Notice — Media · Referenced work · 1 mention · first at
Accurate as a TV show titleYeah. I did a staged reading with Jeffrey Dunovan who is a phenomenal actor. He was the star of Burn Notice and was the star of Law and Order recently and he's in Sakario.
- Ransom Canyon — Media · Referenced show (colleague credit) · 1 mention · first at
Treat as media title; verify capitalizationThey just huge show. They just canceled it weirdly, but it was huge.
- Sleepers — Media · Referenced film credit · 1 mention · first at
Referenced in relation to Jeffrey Donovan and earlier film experiences; used in anecdotal reminiscence.And he brought up sleepers and I said, you keep glossing this over, but I just want the audience to know that 30 years ago, you sexually assaulted me as a 12-year-old.
Sponsors
- Allstate — Sponsor · Sponsor · 6 mentions · first at
Episode sponsor; ad reads occur multiple times encouraging listeners to 'check Allstate first' for potential savings on car insurance.Hit with John Ham called American Hostage is tasty. Please enjoy Jonathan Tucker. [clears throat] This episode is brought to you by All State. Checking All State first could…
- Uber Eats — Sponsor · Sponsor · 3 mentions · first at
Episode sponsor; ad read promoting groceries via Uber Eats and Aldi partnership (promo code for discount).Get $10 off your first Aldi order of $40 plus on Uber Eats with code Aldi mom's car. Terms apply. See app for details.
- Uber — Company · Sponsor parent company · 4 mentions · first at
Referenced as owner of Uber Eats, sponsor of segments and mentioned in sponsor read context. - Aldi — Company · Sponsor partner (via Uber Eats) · 2 mentions · first at
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Full transcript with timestamps
Welcome to Mom's Car. I'm Dak Shepard. I am Aaron Beman. And today we have on Jonathan Tucker. And the beautiful irony of this is the last time we interviewed Jonathan Tucker, he was also in a car. He was in a 87 Cadillac coupe Deville. What a stud. Who gives an interview in a car like that? You know him from Westworld City on a hill. Our favorite. Kingdom, the Virgin Suicides, Texas Chainsaw Massacre, and he is in the new runaway hit with John Ham called American Hostage is tasty. Please enjoy Jonathan Tucker. [clears throat] This episode is brought to you by All State. Checking All State first could save you hundreds on car insurance. Not checking the dress code at the new restaurant, showing up in sandals and getting turned away at the door, no fun at all. Yeah, checking first is always a good move. So, check all state first for an auto quote. It could save you hundreds. You're in good
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Okay. I don't know which one. Sunset and what? Sunset and [ __ ] you. And Gower.
Oh, and Gower. Oh, I know that. In the glitter gulch. That dump of a I have a real animosity against that shopping center. Me too.
Do you? I do too. I think a lot of people live in Hollywood. Do tell me yours. I just genuinely don't like that spot.
The parking is weird. I just don't like the spot. It's like it's high the traffic is high. People go fast and the parking is shitty and so it just feels like a bad place to be ambulatory.
Well, and also the facade of the place is like particle board. Yeah. I'm like, "Guys, this is a prime piece of real estate, and we still have particle board up from 1971 when you built this [ __ ]
Do you go to family and friends across from Jumbos?" No, family and friends. That's the bakery that we just passed.
Oh. Oh, no. But I've had um All Time serves their bread. Yeah, they do great work there. You should go there sometime.
Are we recording this or We are recording. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I'm on the record.
I'm on the record. Maybe I should slow down and not let people see the hyper caffeinated.
No, I first It's definitely part of your charm. Really quick, cuz this is going to be the most ADHD conversation, and that's what it's going to be, right? We'll just embrace that. But don't you love that? Now, this is will be the second time I've interviewed you. Both times you were in a vehicle. That's true.
Do you recall that you're in and you were in your Coupe Deville? Yeah. And I didn't even appreciate the loss of not having the chance to go to your studio.
Okay. Well, we'll also do that. Yeah. But I'm just saying I was like I was like, yeah, this is how people must do it. They go to somewhere private and then they
they get in their Cooperville. What year is that? Cooperville car. It was an 87 or 80 879.
Wait, she's not with us anymore. No, I didn't tell you what I did with it. No. All right. So, I bought the car cuz I was shooting in Vancouver.
It just was like one I found this incredible car. It was so [ __ ] red interior as I recall.
Red interior and a white kind of off-white exterior. It's just so beautiful. And the the transpo team took it for like two weeks and just made it showroom quality. The interior is perfect.
And uh so I I drove it. Really quick, look back at Tucker. He looks like he's when they interview someone who does not want their identity.
I'm like the biggest Yeah. biggest sunglasses available. I'm on the prowl. Uh I'm always I feel like I'm going to like pull a weapon out and like start firing off the side with my two getaway drivers. I got a wheelman on the left and I got Michigan's finest on the right ready to go.
Two Michigan's finest wars. Um, okay. So, Transville put a real shine on. They really did. So, I drove the car for like 6 months during co. It was just awesome. And then at the end I'm like, so what am I going to do? Am I going to go on Craigslist and like try to resell this thing
and like have to show it a bunch and answer questions? And so I at the end I'm like, "So, what am I going to do? Am I going to try to sell this thing? you know, I'm I'm not going to bring it back to LA cuz I don't want to deal with all the customs and imports and fees and all the mess that that was. You know, I've got two 2-year-old twins in the middle of co,
right? So, I went to buy the biggest bow I could possibly find, like one of the bows that they show on
Alex commercial or Mercedes Christmas. And I went to the back to the Canadian DMV and I got all the title or whatever. and I uh put everybody's name in the hat on the crew and I stood up at the end of the show with a bottle of champagne and I pulled the name out and I gave a car away.
That's great cuz obviously the crew is local. They're Canadian so they don't got to export the car either.
I have never in my life ever felt so great magnanimous. I mean giving giving a car away.
Yes. And the car didn't car cost a few thousand dollar. Sure. Sure. Canadian. Do you recall what department won?
Yeah, of course. It was her birthday. She turned 29. It was And it was the hair and makeup girl.
Where's the Starbies? Oh, it's right there. All right, we all Look at what a [ __ ] dump this is. Please go go.
Look what a clunker this is. Isn't it a trash? I just thought we were in an old western town.
Yeah, look at this. The main sign that shitty [ __ ] wood, boys. That's the power of Uber, though. We can get a
the Jean Audrey strip mall. stopped at a brothel for a quick You missed. We almost got t-boned.
Yeah, I heard a lot of ruckus going on when I got up. You stopped and played a quick uh round of five card stuff.
Yeah, I got challenged to a duel. So, you know, I'm very familiar with this on demand process that in which we are currently engaging in service of other people.
I am currently a Wag and Rover Walker. What's that? What's the Wag? So, here's You don't know the Wag app or Rover app? No.
All right. So, if I was to ask somebody, they'd say, "Oh, it's like Uber for dog walking."
Oh, okay. You open up your app, you click, and you want your dog walked, correct? Somebody's going to show up in your house who's vetted who's going to walk your dog for half an hour or an hour or whatever.
And it's a minimal, you know, it's a small fee. Nominal. Correct. Okay. Well, it depends how much money you make, but yeah, nominal fee.
Relative relative. Some people are scratching, you know, D. So, um, so I am doing this show in New York and it's a real toxic environment. I'd never really been a part of a toxic environment before.
Okay. And I was, my wife was pregnant, she's in LA, I'm in New York, real bad work situation. I'm I'm being gaslit, made to feel badly about myself.
And uh, and I'm commuting back and forth, and my dogs are in LA, and I'm just lonely, bro. And I don't get lonely very often. Okay.
So much for me holding it. What did you do? I can't see what's happening. We got We got a We got one.
We got one. We got a We got a fish. We got a fish. We got a We got one on the hook.
We got one on the on the line. Reel them in. Nice and easy. Nice and easy. Don't freak them out.
Don't text them right away. Be like, "Oh, we're really excited." Don't freak them out.
Don't freak them out. Oh, we start texting like, "Oh, I'm so happy you ordered. We're so excited to deliver the food." Um,
we can't wait. Yeah. Be suspicious if we're too excited. Like, we're thinking about it. We'd like to deliver it.
We're still considering your request. Um, okay. So, you're having a bad time. You're lonely.
I don't get I'm not like a I don't get lonely, you know, and I'm just going to Did you feel alienated from the cast? Is that what it was?
I didn't feel alienated, but I felt very alone, right, on set? Yeah. And frustrated. Anyways, I realized that the inverse of Wag and Rover is that you can open up an app and you can pick a dog for half an hour to play with.
Oh, no [ __ ] This was your solution to feeling shitty. I'm like, I can just open up the app and like grab a dog.
I love this. I'm going to go grab the food. You're going to miss out. That's something you would benefit from, Aaron, greatly.
So, I'm like I'm in New York. I'm having like a great dinner with a friend. Yeah.
At the end of dinner, I open up my app. I order a cappuccino. I'm a little full. I ate too much pasta.
Okay. And I'm going to work tomorrow like 4 in the morning. But it's, you know, I open up and then I just start swiping. Which dog am I going to get?
Yeah. Yeah. Oh, and you can actually see a picture of the dog. The picture descriptions.
Oh, this is fun. You get the whole details and what their previous walks were like.
Oh, there's feedback on that. Feedback. You leave feedback as the walker. So, there I am. I just go I'm like, "All right." I walk like a block or two and I pick up a dog.
Well, are you looking for a big dog or a little dog? It depends on the mood that night, too.
Okay. Okay. I like variety. Okay. Sure. Yeah. Novelty. We love novelty. Exactly. With my wife, I like exactly what I get with my wife. But with the dogs, I want to see it all.
I want to see it all, Ethan. I want all of it. Okay. I'd just walk like a blog or two. I'd grab a dog.
Yeah. And then I'd give the dog a walk. I'd walk off the food. Yeah. I'd take a photo on the park bench, send it to my wife.
And it was just great. I'm like, this is great. How many dogs do you think you walk?
Oh, 30, 40, 50. Wow, that's really fun. You meet at curbside. I mean, what's going happening? Should you want me to take a look?
Should we? You want to give it away? I'll give it away. And don't forget, you know, you want to say with the ties you say so.
All right. I'm a little We're delivering drugs. Here we go. But uh are we delivering drugs?
I hope. It's a very tiny package. All right. We have not told one succinct story. I'm going to force us to right now. So, okay. We talked about the Cadillac. Love it. In your in your daily driver now is what? It's a It's
a 2011 Ford Crown Victoria P71 police interceptor. Cop suspensions, cop brakes, cop lights, cop engine, cop everything.
Cop cop cop cop cop thing runs. Okay, so Aaron and I got this glass spectacular invitation. I don't know. Are you familiar with this YouTuber, Cletus McFarland? Have you ever seen his stuff?
He does crazy car stuff. He'll, you know, he'll buy a Lamborghini and jump it over a house. You know, he just does wacky stuff. Well, he's been very successful and he bought this old racetrack in Bradington, Florida.
Mhm. And so, um, we are participating in November in a Crown Vic only race. Crown Vicks.
It's a whole field is Crown Vicks and it's uh an oval with a little uh infield uh chicane and it's a I think a 2hour long race and you have to have two drivers. So, we'll swap drivers at some point. Does that not sound like the most spectacular thing,
Dax? Yes. Does he know that I am an Does he know who I am? How do I get in front of this guy?
DO YOU KNOW WHO I AM? How do I GET I'M THE ONLY ACTOR in LA who drives Crown Vic. I'm a fleet owner operator of this vehicle. It's the backbone of the municipal fleet in America. It's the it's the strength of our country in in in a in the form of an automobile. And I support it in in in a real way. Also, like any vehicle that was designed with the intention, I remember we go to these police uh package conferences, these fleet shows, and they'd be explaining like, you know, the car was designed to take a curb at 35 mph without doing any damage upper or lower control arms. You're like, "Yeah, that's the kind of vehicle I was designed to smash into a curb."
Yeah, it's just a great car. [clears throat] I feel very American driving it and I love it.
Okay, now we want the full story. We had the biggest laugh in months this morning when I discovered this KKL9 footage of you. You've got to walk me through June 2024.
This is um a home invasion. Yes. What do you mean? Of course it is. I'm glad you laughed.
I'm thinking like what was I at Kal 9 for a few years ago? Yeah, that was an unexpected
Hold on. Hold on. This first, let's start with this is a childhood dream come true. When you're a kid, When you're watching, hold on. No. When you're Listen, Tucker, before you get defensive,
when you're a kid and you're watching the news and you find out there was a hero in your towel,
you're like, "Fuck, I wish I could be a hero." Tell me what Tell me what happened. I can already sense a little hesitation.
Yeah. Um, all right. Well, look how reluctant. If If I had done what you did, that's all I would talk about. I I mean I did notice you weren't available for comments, so I figured there was I I was wondering why that was too.
I guess here's what happened. So there's, you know, we live in a really lovely neighborhood. It's super family oriented,
kids everywhere, doors open. It's like idyllic. We also live in LA and there's, you know, there's lot of riff.
There's some riff raff. And um I was inside and like I heard something. I could hear like a kid or something. I was like that doesn't I could hear it outside. I was like, "That doesn't sound like playing. It sounded like something concerning." So,
I was I talked to my wife. I was like, "Hold on a sec." And I I put my head out the front door. I look out. I'm like, "Yeah, there's something's up." Like, I just said something.
Spidey senses are going off. And I see like a neighbor's looking like, you know, halfway down the block is looking across the street. So, I kind of peek my head out and then I see that there's this like very big guy. Big guy.
Yeah. Yeah. We saw the footage. She's a large man walking down the street and he turned into somebody's house and I know the the folks that's an older woman. Her husband passed away and he comes up to it and I turn to my neighbor. I'm like, "What's going on?" He's like, "This guy's really angry."
And he start hanging on this woman's door very very aggressively. Very aggressively. I'm like I turn to the guy right away. I was like, "Listen, I'm going to do everything. I don't want to provoke the situation right this guy. I'm hoping she doesn't open the door, but if she does open the door and I'm unable to like signal to her, would will you go in with me?"
Yeah. Yeah, cuz I really don't want obviously something bad to happen. I know this woman.
Yes. And this guy was awesome. She's like, "Yeah, absolutely." Right. You go first, but I Yes, I'll be behind you.
So, so he's banging, banging, banging, banging, and she opens up the little window thing. So, I'm behind her. Okay.
Okay. And so, she doesn't open the door. Awesome. Great. So, then he continues going down. And I was just like, let me just track this guy
to make sure that this doesn't happen again. And so me and this other neighbor, he walks with me down the street and then he goes to some other houses. Nobody opens their door. Great. And then he goes off. By that point, we'd already called 911.
Okay. And reported this. And yeah, as for a timeline, like what do you think the the the gap between when you call 911 and when they arrive, right? This is always impressive.
The police were incredible. They were absolutely magnificent. It's everything you ever want from law enforcement. So this guy's banging. He go turns off. He goes on to Highland and we're like, "All right, he's off my block.
He's out of your jurisdiction. I think we did everything we did, right? Like we called the police. We gave a description. We made sure the people were safe. I don't I I feel like I did my part. You know,
let that be." I go back in the house about 10 15 minutes later. I go back out for something else and I hear another thing and I look down the other side. So, he'd gone gone basically done a huge loop and he's coming down the block. So, now I see other people are walking dogs. So, I try to tell those people like, "Hey, can you go to the other side of the street? Let's just let this guy clear through."
Sure. This guy looks like he's something's up. Yeah. Now, I'm watching kind of watching it just make sure everything's fine. And he's standing in front of this neighbor's house across uh the way. And I turn to the other neighbors now across the street. He's come out. I say, "Hey, do you know who lives in that house?" And he's like, "Yeah, I know them well." I said, "Just call and just make sure that they're like their doors are locked and do you know if anyone's home?" He's like, "Yeah, the I know the wife's home
with with children with Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, the wife saw him and I'm assuming they have kids. I can't remember. But and then I turned back and the guy's gone. They couldn't have gone anywhere but in the house.
Right. Right. And you know, I just took off. You're barefoot. I think this is an important part of the story.
Yeah, I'm barefoot. Uh and cuz I have a very similar experience. I mean, I just
You're never really You have fantasies about how you'd respond, but you're never really in the right outfit when the situation actually presents itself.
I wanted to be in SWAT gear. Yeah. You seem to have a tactical bag with you though.
Yeah, I grabbed the bag. Yeah, like I grabbed the bag and that'll remain a mystery like Pulp Fiction, right? We'll never know.
Thank god I did. I just sprinted across the street, went through the door and and you're by yourself at this point.
Yeah, by myself. And the mom is holding her like, you know, baby and she's freaking out.
Sure. She doesn't know who I am really. All right. Um, I'm just a guy busting into her house
with a bag in your barefoot. But somebody else has just busted through her house and he's three times my size and significantly unhappy
and noticeably. So, I'm just I was actually like pretty clearheaded cuz I was like, you know, where is he and are there other do you have kids in the house? Like are who else is in the house? And she's hyperventilating. She's like, my kid my kids my kids are in the house.
Oh man. And I'm like, where are where are their kids? How many are there? How many are there? How many are there?
Well, she goes nine. Yeah. I in my neighborhood it's possible. So she goes, "There's two." And I said, "Where are they?" I see one of them out of my eye. I grab that guy and I throw it to the mom and I get out of the house. Get out this way. Like get out. Get out. Get out. Get out. And I had to go find the kids. I had to go start going through these rooms. I And thankfully I didn't see the guy. And I found the girl. She's hiding. She's a mess. Yeah.
And she doesn't know, you know, who I am. And I'm so I'm starting to talk to her and I'm like, "Hey, it's okay. Uh there's somebody, you know, who's here. I just Then I realized I'm like I'm [ __ ] I'm a 40-year-old man talking to like a sevenyear-old. I just need to So I just grabbed her and like firemen her out of the house.
Well, this is the shot we see on KKL 9. You come out of the house barefoot holding a child.
Yeah, it was really Dude, I got to tell you it was not funny. It was horrifying.
It was so heroic. I don't know. You know, it's it is like it sounds like such a trope, but like you're not even thinking you're just like I got there's a kid. I got to save this kid. I got to get this kid out of you don't want to provoke any violence. So like I don't want any interaction with anybody. I just want to get all these people out of the house safe, you know?
Yes. And the cops were there once. So I called again when I was running to the house and I'm like, "This is not a guy wandering in the neighborhood. We have a man [clears throat] in this house. Here's the address. He's just entered the home. There's kids. There's going to be a family in the home. Like we need people here right away." And they were there by the time I got out of the house. I don't I think they were already pulling up.
So then it's like, "Let these professionals do their job." And they were incredible.
Well, I see it's heavy, but I do wish you had a little bit of pride. It's pretty [ __ ] radical. I think like you do the exact I think like you know there's most husbands I know will do the exact same thing.
Well then I would I would feel good about it. All right. Now I deliver this. Uh that's what happens now. I go deliver.
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Did you get another order? No, I just had to wait for her to come down because there wasn't an apartment number. Tucker, my experience similar to this. I [clears throat] So, back
beautiful. Yeah. Little bit of uh sun stain on the paint job. But uh Okay. So, I I lived in Santa Monica for 10 years in this very shitty apartment on a a rough street. All right. In Santa Monica, if you can imagine that. It was called Uklid. And my girlfriend of nine years who lived with me there, she called me the sheriff of Uklid cuz like you I'm like always sniffing around like what's happening? And I'm just, you know, you're paying attention to you're aware.
This is back to your outfit. Yeah. So, it's a very memorable day because I was a very heavy smoker and I decided, okay, I'm going to quit smoking. So, this is the day I quit. I'm on day one.
Pros of nicotine withdrawal. Yes. I'm very irritable and agitated. And I literally just make it to night time. I'm like, "Okay, I got through day one." I lay down in bed with Bri. I'm wearing these um heart pajama bottoms that my mom sent me for Valentine's Day. Obviously, I'm barefoot and obviously I'm shirtless. I'm going to bed.
And I'm laying there and all of a sudden we hear like blood curdling screaming coming from right on the other side of the window on the street and I'm like, "Oh, fuck." I jump up and you need to know the family that lived below me was this um lovely Mexican family that at this point I've seen some of the kids grow up from like 8 years old. I go to their parties.
Six folks living in the same one-bedroom apartment. I adore these people. I run down my stairwell. I come around the corner of our apartment building and I see there's a car parked and two of the kids that are from there, they're now teenagers. Um, one kid's in the driver's seat holding his nose. He's just blood pouring down his face. And then in the passenger seat, the other kid is being pulled through the window by this dude. Tucker I already had a mixup with three years before. He's in a gang, the Santa Monica Trace. They live two apartment buildings over and so I already that dude tried to mug me and I already fought that guy 3 years before police came. That's its own story that's 25 minutes long.
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Oh. Oh my gosh. Pretty good branding opportunity for Also, you're so ADHD. I love it.
Well, we're doing a random sign to pick. We're doing Is this show not sponsored by Uber?
Sponsored by Uber. saying you picked if you say ADHD I'm like I'm looking to hit up our sponsors who are underwriting underwriting this opportunity. I mean what are we doing here?
Okay. So so talk he's in the middle of pulling this dude out the window, right? And then the young girls in the back seat screaming. I see him. I'm in my pajama bottoms. I'm shoeless and I scream at him. I go, "Hey, I'M GOING TO [ __ ] TEACH YOU A LESSON cuz I already I already did this. I already taught a lesson and I quit smoking that day. So, I'm actually really in the mood to teach someone a lesson.
He sees me, he lets go of the guy, he takes off sprinting down Uclid towards Broadway. I take off after him. Obviously, the cops have been called when I heard the screaming. The people downstairs also heard. So, cops have already been called, right? I don't know any of this. But he takes off flying. I'm trying to catch him. And as I'm coming up to turn left onto Broadway, the police car flies up on the sidewalk and they've gotten a call that some maniac's beating up people and they see me sprinting shirtless
with my pajama bottoms on. You're on the hood of the car. I'm on the ground immediately. I'm on the ground. They're out. Guns on the ground. But as I'm complying, I'm going, "Dude, I'm not. YOU GOT THE WRONG DUDE. DUDE, HE'S GETTING AWAY. HE'S GETTING AWAY."
AND THEY'VE heard that a million times. Yeah. So, I have to just chill for, you know, 60 seconds before I convince those people. And then also the neighbors are now coming down the street and they're yelling it's not him. And so, the funniest part of the story is when they finally let me get up and they're like, "Okay, what do he look like?" And I'm like, you know, he's like, he's probably 510, 5'9, you know, he's Latino. And I all of a sudden I go, oh, I have a picture of him. And they go, you have a picture of him? Because when I had that altercation with them and the police came, they took photographs of us and I got the photos from the police station and they're in my toolbox upstairs and I go, "Yeah, yeah, I have pictures of him." So the cops walked me back to my apartment. They come up. I go in my tool box. These
pictures are You've never seen He looks like he got hit by a a [ __ ] bread truck,
right? He had he had a broken nose, a broken jaw. He is a mess in these photos. And when I hand the police the photos of this guy, they start laughing so [ __ ] hard. They're like, "Wait a minute. What are these? Why what happened?" And you know, I got to tell them the whole story. And they're just in the best mood when I hand them these pictures. They take the pictures. I don't know. They go drive around for a couple hours and then they finally come back and give me the pictures. Yeah. Yeah. We didn't find them. But
I thought you were going to be in cuffs and you were like, and you were going to be like, "Just give me a square. I just need one smoke here before I You got to light me up.
Watch this, Timmy. But again, I just Not what I would want to be in a combat situation in my heart-shaped pajamas and barefoot.
Well, that's funny. Yeah, you always want to be Well, it's like when I proposed to my wife, I made sure she thought we were going to like the fanciest restaurant in New York. I took her to John's Pizzeria on Bleecker Street. But the premise was you're going to like Jean George or something because I was told that when you propose to your wife, you want her well, she's going to want to be really welldressed,
right? You don't want to propose to her like on Christmas morning when she's in the Christmas py. Yeah. She looks, you know, like she just woke up. So, you know, you want to put people in a position to look their very best at high points and low points in their life. And like my passport,
I know what you're saying. My passport photo is me in a tuxedo. Oh, really? Because I'm like, I'm going to have this thing for 10 years.
This is why you're such a good actor. The details. You really are specific about the details.
I had a I had a driver's license for 10 years where I had a wife beat her on and like a black eye and like a gold shad. And the thing just looked sick. It was incredible. You show it to anybody, they just start laughing. They're tail.
An Italian dinner jacket. The black eye. She's perfect. So, you take her to the pizzeria and you propose to her there.
I proposed in Central Park. Oh, okay. She thought we were going to this fancy restaurant and um we proposed there and then, you know, had all of her friends meet us at John's Pizzeria on Bleecker Street and uh and she looked like a million bucks. She was thrilled with how she looked.
Oh, that's lovely. And how long you guys been together now? We've been married for 14 years.
Okay. And how long were you dating before you took before? Okay. So, you've been together like 16 years. You know, people said like, you know, you'll know when you know,
but when I first met her, I I knew she was special, like very special. Like she'd be a friend of mine for the rest of my life. I was like, I she's very special. But I didn't know for quite some time that she would be my wife. But I did have this moment when I do one moment. I was like, this is the woman I'm going to marry. You know how they have all these like kind of like mini award shows before the Academy Awards and the Emmys and the Golden Globes? They've got like these like starter awards,
kind of like lower tier award ceremonies. I had been asked to give one for somebody an award. So I wrote my own copy instead of their introduction. I did my own introduction for the award. And so when I presented it, it was a huge hit. Like I mean I just hit a home run with this dialogue. People are loving the dialogue.
And they're like, "The award ceremonies was terrible. You were so great. That was so funny."
So I'm feeling great about myself. And that same like award, you know, the same PR team or whatever asked me to do another award ceremony that was like a next tier up
to present to somebody cuz I crushed it. So I'm like, "Hey, I took the leather off the ball on that one. I'm going to write my own copy again."
So I write my own copy for this awards ceremony and I come into the awards and and I came with Tara, my wife now, but she's my girlfriend at the time.
Yeah. It's like a mini Academy Awards. Like it's just like incred. Every table's like an Academy Award table for that year.
And I'm feeling very confident cuz I got this great dialogue cuz you're one for one.
One for one. Can't lose. That's exactly right. Huge history of crushing for one.
I'm unstoppable. I'm on a streak. I'm building a streak. Okay. I'm building a streak.
Did you wear the same socks or anything? No. So, I show up and I didn't give the copy to the um to the teleprompter, you know, and I show because I
Why didn't you do that? I didn't occur to me. Mm- cuz, you know, I was one for one. So, and I should have known like every person who went up there is like super famous and they're they're like, "Wow, it's so bright." You know, under these lights. Should have been a good tip off. I get up there and I can't I can't see a thing.
Okay. And the copy I've written, printed it out, it's like, you know, 11 size like hel New York Times Roman can't see the font.
Oh boy. Does your heart rate immediately like do you know you're [ __ ] immediately?
I know I'm kind of [ __ ] immediately but then but then there's no feeling like it is there.
Well then the jokes I have are awesome if I set them up properly. You know they're offensive if you don't
without the context. Oh man. And I got to tell you it was offensive and it was terrible.
Who's in the audience? Like can you name some people? Oh, like you know it's like the hurt locker table. It's like it's like okay everyone you'd want to work with.
Everybody you want to work with in Hollywood who every single one is going who's going to the Academy Awards that year.
Every single one of them. And I'm like the least famous person there but I'm the guy who like gave a who had one good presentation.
And I know these people too. Like there's a lot of people there I know. I was like, "Sure."
I wasn't looking for it as an opportunity, but I certainly wasn't looking to for be a liability.
You cried, right? SETBACK. YEAH. And I walked up so confidently. And when I came back down there, I was JUST LIKE,
I COULDN'T believe it, dude. It was so bad. And the heat you're feeling in your face.
Yes. I wish there was video of this. I would never want to I want to watch it a bunch of times.
I remember too. The joke was something about like so you know when you're shooting
film television a lot of people's names are their first name and then their job so be like oh yeah like uh Johnny props.
Oh right right. Uhhuh. Uhhuh. You know Susan Art deck. Yeah. Yeah. Right. So I made this joke about something around that and like I can't remember it was but it came across like they were somehow less than.
Sure. You were there you were there to [ __ ] on the crew. by the last I know you really pride all the transphob
and I sit down and Tara puts her hand on my lap and she's like something like I love you or you did great or whatever it was or so happy to be here with you.
Yeah. I was like I'm going to marry you. That's it from when that's it. I'm going to marry this woman.
You found stand by you. Oh my gosh. In that room at that time. Oh my god. That man didn't get out. That was horrible.
I've had a couple of those cuz obviously I've had to come on and present a lot of awards and this and that. I had one where my [clears throat] urologist No, no, no. I not my urologist. My rheumatologist
rheumatologist. Yeah. Was being honored, you know, by some lifime society thing.
Yes. And he's an older man, right? And he's proud that you're the one doing it because you're his like celebrity client.
One of his celebrity clients. And I think he's he's ascertained that I'm a little bright, right? So he's feeling confident to ask me. And I'm like, "Yes, I I'd love to."
Family's there. Big event. Big event. His colleagues are there. I so dramatically underestimated what the mean age would be in the audience.
I'm like, "Yeah, I know he's 87, but I can't imagine this this whole ball is going to be all 87 year olds." In in in Tucker, it was 100% everyone was over 80.
And I had a couple of mildly racy, steamy sex jokes um that completely tanked. I mean just the whole thing came out. Yeah. And I remember I had ridden my motorcycle to the thing to avoid parking and traffic. It was such a lead balloon. Everything I said they thought I was just a dirty pervert.
I shamed my rheatologist. You you brought shame. I did. I did. Night of celebration.
Yeah. I was supposed to be honored. I come in and just whatever. Jokes that would have worked in other places did not work. Not one of them worked. And I haven't prepared much sincerity cuz how sincere can you be about your rheatologist? You know, I appreciate him, but we haven't been through a lot.
Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. You haven't been through the ups and downs. Anyways, I just get on my motorcycle and I have this feeling. I go, "Yeah, man. That one you [ __ ] the bed and there'll be others and some you'll [ __ ] the bed, some you'll do good." And I just decided we're just going to dump this right out of our head. [clears throat] They can't all be winners and we just got to let it go.
You should have said that cuz like I have these interactions. You should have said it out loud. going back to the truth conversation. Like when I'm like at a wedding, you like cocktail party or something. You know, you have these like small talk. You know, a lot of times I'm like, "Well, Dax, it was really nice to meet you. I had a great conversation with you. I feel like this was a good interaction." Yeah.
Let's leave it on a high note and uh drinks on me here. you know, like I like to like have a nice ex or you be like, you know, I think this is I think this is a good time for us to maybe end the conversation because I feel like we we're hitting all the big highlights and points. Let's leave it here
and we'll feel good about each other. You feel good about me. I think I like to recap with how the day knows how
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We would be remiss if we didn't collectively tell you how much we loved Kingdom and particularly you kingdom.
Yes. Aaron is one of your top five characters of all time. I mean, yeah, it was the first show Dax told me to watch when I got sober, went away [clears throat] for a couple months, came back, and um
cuz Aaron hadn't watched TV for a decade. Yeah. And I hadn't watched anything. And now I find myself at that time a little weary of even leaving the house
for quite a while. And man, I watched that [ __ ] show and was obsessed. And then, of course, you don't know me, but I immediately thought, "Oh, well, maybe I can start drinking again and then be a badass and get up in the morning." And I was telling Dax how I was feeling about this show. And no,
he's like, "You took the wrong message away. You can't drink like that and wake up in the morning.
You're never going to look like Frank Garillo and be insane." Yeah. And you cannot You don't look anything like that.
We can We can get you there, though. We I've got a great gym right there where where Dax lives. Okay.
But my god, that was Yeah, you might have been one of my first follows on Instagram cuz I created an Instagram account soon after that
and uh I've been following you ever since. I was like, "This dude's [ __ ] radical."
I mean, look, it's really it's like so gratifying to hear that cuz we worked so hard.
Yeah. On that show. Do you have any sorrow? It was so worthy of the kind of attention that many roles get when the show's like widely available and everyone sees it. Like it was so worthy. You were so worthy of an Emmy. You were so worthy of a lot of attention.
Yeah. It is a little It's more heartbreaking now than it was kind of after just cuz you really want people to see the work.
Yes. And especially what you did. It was such a commitment and you're so [ __ ] good.
I really appreciate it. I mean you are such a better actor than me. It's astounding. It's like it was funny that we'd get introduced and and we'd say we had the same job.
No, I don't. I disagree with that entirely. I think you're a wonderful actor and you think you're a wonderful actor and I wish you did more of it. As Aaron and I were saying, you become so successful that you're able to get a neck tattoo. That's a sign that's a sign of real success, you know. And I ironically I feel like for you from Michigan, there was two versions of the guy from Michigan with the neck tattoo. There's the guy who's like, "I'll always be a GM delivering fleet vehicles." Which, by the way, is an honorable awesome job.
Absolutely. Honorable we were, but then there's a guy who's like, "No, no, no. If I get the neck tattoo, it'll prohibit me from moving up to other things, right? I might be able to have more success in other professions,
right?" And then there's Dak Shepard who gets so successful, he's like, "Yep, we're going to flip it back. I'm getting the next I dare you to to not hire me." Um
well the sleeve was definitely that uh Tucker. It was my kind of weird declaration cuz of course I would have wanted to continue to get tattoos but then it was such a pain in the ass. I stopped right and then to get to a place
financially like I'm okay. I'll be okay. I don't have to be presentable to this thing anymore. I don't need to be picked anymore. Oh my god. It felt so liberating. I kind of went a little wild. I'm like I felt like I was reclaiming my real Dax other than just
actor. acts is what every actor needs to have anyways. That's the thing that people miss, right? It's like if you are not wholly yourself. If you're thinking it's about getting picked versus being the fullness of who you are and what your experiences are in the world, then you don't get to be the actor you want to be.
It's the kind of actors who end up having like their back up against the wall. They get to do extraordinary work.
Yeah. Like these Michael K. Williams, these people, you can tell have had real lives.
Yeah. I mean, Martin Luther, you know, standing there in front of the church draws a line in the sand. He says, "Here I stand. I can do no other." And like, you have to get to that point. So, like the irony is is that you broke through a certain fear and said, "I can get the tattoo now." But really, that's what you need to do anyways before you even reach that point.
And that's what you want when somebody comes into a room to audition for you for a role. You want somebody who's like, "Wow, that's wild. That's unique." I just know that I feel that you are very worthy of having a Sam Rockwell persona
like what you need is to have be a show like Kingdom that goes onto a streaming platform that people can watch to your point. So that's what I I really am desperate to have and I think you know I haven't really like expressed this but I have noticed in the past few years like there's two kinds of people that I work with who are in like business for me. those who have gotten a chance to see kingdom and those who haven't like those who have seen are like oh they understand that I can do something beyond what is being presented but I think you know you just have to keep here's this these signs from rehearsal Ali like am I so impatient that I'm going to quit or that I'm not going to continue
resentful resentful totally no I just got to be like grateful for the health of my family you know like I could be going to children's hospital which is up here that this children's hospital We go a lot.
You do? Yeah. Yeah. We do like Christmas event there. Yeah. But you don't go for your your daughters.
We've uh luckily never had to take our children. You don't want to be going there fighting for parking at 6:55 a.m. knowing that the entire parking garage there is filled by 7:00 a.m. for people who are coming from all over the world to get their kids their sixth round of chemotherapy treatment. So like if you wake up and your kid's not getting chemo, you know, [clears throat] that's it's all-encompassing. I mean, you've made a lot of money, but it's like money doesn't mean anything when your kid is sick. It's like you give up every single dollar for your daughter to be healthy.
So, I think if you start at that base level, Yeah. you want people to see the the the work that you've done. And the thing that's frustrating is you you it's hard to find roles that are as well written and that give you the freedom that the that role Jay Koulina did on Kingdom. So, it's like you know that those are limited,
right? Those are limited roles. They don't come along a lot. So that's the frustration is like you're I only get a few of those hits. Yeah.
You know that writer Byron Blasco and I I think he's maybe the best writer in the business.
Hero Kingdom. Hero Kingdom and ran that show and and I know that we'll get to work together again. But I just I love acting. I just love it. So I love the process so much. The freedom that it gives you.
We watched American Hostage this morning. Oh yeah. The first two episodes. First episode. I'm not the first two.
Yeah. So I was sad about that. But I'll immediately say it's a [ __ ] great show. You're on you're a dude. You're on another great show.
Yeah. Yeah. I this past few years like I was looking at the business and after we had the strike and everything and you know I just said I can hold out for certain things
or I can just go join these sort of like really cool projects with great cast and great people.
Uhhuh. That would be the same. And maybe it's not the same role like I don't get that same role. This but by the way an awesome role. I'm thrilled with what we did. Yeah.
Um, that show felt like being American Hostage felt like being a part of like a theater company.
Everybody was so Yeah. Everybody was so committed to what they were doing. And also, and this is something you don't really know unless you're in the business. Often times there's this weird jockeying that can happen for like power and position on in a in a large ensemble of which I want nothing to do with that,
right? I want nothing to do with that. I just want to do awesome work with awesome people.
But you get into the press side of things and people can get weird, you know? They want to literally stand in a certain position for photos and stuff. You're like, I don't want to fight for this.
And on that show, everybody knew what they were doing, what they were up for. Everybody was super supportive.
Also, everyone's been validated. Totally. Right. That's what you really want. Like, everyone's already been validated.
You know what you're getting on? What's Minka doing? She's on that Ransom Canyon show.
They just huge show. They just canceled it weirdly, but it was huge. Josh's the best.
He is the best. Did we talk about him? Did I tell you about him flying with the Thunderbirds?
Oh my god. Maybe you did. Tell me though. So, I went up with the Thunderbirds. Okay.
And they were like, we came down. I said, "How'd I do?" And they go, "Oh, you were the best we've ever had. You took the most cheese. The most tea." No, really. You know, you're the most cheese. The best. I don't feel great. And then they go, "Oh, no, no, no. Actually, that's not true."
Oh, that's not true. Yeah. You're the second best. And I'm like, "What?" Hey, but this is out of celebrities. So, this is out of celebrities, so the bar is low, right? This is not like
winning the celebrity golf. Correct. Correct. Yeah. So I said, "Who was the first who was the who was the best celebrity?" They said, "Uh, Josh Duml." I said, "You kidding me? Sure.
What did What did you do with Josh? You didn't do with me." And they go, "We did everything. We did everything with Josh that we do with you." But when we got out of the plane and by the way, you feel like real woozy.
Sure, dude. Well, you told you after you did it, you're like, "Dude, you got to do this." I'm like, "Never. I [ __ ] throw up in a face mask."
It was I didn't do that. So, it was it was it was amazing. So, um, they go Josh Dell came out of the plane and we asked him how he was doing. He's like doing great. And then he pulled like an entire thing of dip out of his lip.
And they were like, "What?" They were like, "We can't even that would make us sick." And then when I asked Josh about it later,
Yeah. He's like, "Oh man." He's like, "It was the worst thing ever." He's like, "I didn't realize that I had it.
I totally forgot." And he says, "I got up there and you, you know, you get strapped in. I mean, it takes like three people to get you into the cockpit.
You've got all this gear and gak. You're sealed in cuz you're going to go to like 60,000 ft.
Already claustrophobic just thinking about he's like, I couldn't take it out. Right. Yeah. How could he? Where is he going to put it inside the $35 million point? Such a man.
He is. He's effortlessly a man. So cool. Um, well, if you remember, the first time you and I ever met was in front of Central Park. Kristen's trailer was there,
right? That's right. She was friends with you and that's where I met you and we were doing a movie with Josh Duml. We were doing when in Rome he was the star. Yeah. He and Kristen were like lovers. But the funny thing that is dip related was at that time that was 19 years ago.
Yeah. At that time Christian and I both dipped and Dmell dipped. So the whole set was [ __ ] empty pop bottles and [ __ ] right? We're just disgusting. So then we all have to go to Italy to shoot for 2 weeks in Italy. And for whatever reason,
they don't sell dip in Italy. They do not sell dip. And we know this pack enough dip.
So like day three, all of us are having a panic about what we're going to do. And then Dumel says, "Oh, well Fergie's coming to visit
on the PJ. I'll tell her to bring some dip." And we're like, "Oh my god, great deliver." He shows up with a duffel bag of crab dip. Come to find out, sweet Fergie dips.
Oh. So, there was a moment where we're standing in a piaza between shots while they're lighting. We got a fountain behind us. All four of us are sitting there with [ __ ] empty Perry bottles,
dipping spitting. And I said, "This is the first paparazzi photo I would love to be a part of." Okay. I want to know soup to nuts. Tell me about your cannabis business. I find this very fascinating. You know, the show I did for Netflix, I Will Find You, is a limited series.
Uhhuh. American Hostage is a limited series. You're not going to get four years of work out of it.
So, I needed to find something to help me. And um let me just hold on to a bunch of cash and just wait for a great opportunity to present itself, something that probably is going to need immediate liquidity.
Uh-huh. Uh and I thought it'd be some real estate thing, like somebody who was in a jam.
Yeah. And I waited and was patient and I somebody came to me and they had a family-owned dairy farm in Massachusetts and it was going out from under and they were they needed capital to basically fund like a wildcatting expedition for a cannabis cultivation manufacturing and production facility.
Yeah. And I was like, you know, I don't really use cannabis. I'm not aver I think it's, you know, I'm not averse to it, but I've never wanted to invest in it. It's feels like it's federally there's a lot of issues. And I did all this diligence, as much kind of like work as I could from LA. And then it all started checking out and I jumped on a plane and visited the farm and met people and kind of local government officials and said, "All right, let's let's get rich quick."
Yeah. Yeah. And I got, you know, cash real fast. Yeah. How many years ago? Now, eight years, you know, eight years later.
But you have three retail locations. Four. Four. One in Jersey. You said I have one in New Jersey, three in in Massachusetts.
Tucker, that's radical. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, I mean it is. And it's called the Boston Garden, right?
In Massachusetts. It's the Boston Garden. And where what is it in New Jersey? It's the Public Garden.
The Public Garden. Okay. I know you just did a play in Boston. Yeah. I did a staged reading uh with Jeffrey Dunovan who is a phenomenal actor. He was the star of Burn Notice and was the star of Law and Order recently and um he's in Sakario. Great actor. And he's from Massachusetts and we both did Sleepers together 30 years ago. He was a prison guard.
Kevin Bacon. Oh man, we were doing a bunch of like radio press and stuff for the reading.
Yeah. And he brought up sleepers and I said, you know, you keep glossing this over, but I just want the audience to know that 30 years ago, you know, you sexually assaulted me as a 12-year-old boy.
And he's like, "Oh, but in the movie, in the movie." It was in the movie. You keep glossing over this.
Yeah. I said that to Kevin Bacon, too. When we did a couple of the shows, you've been on those shots or at least were set there. Have you been there on a show? I I shot the pilot of City on a Hill for Showtime with Kevin Bacon.
Yes. In Boston. When you were there doing City on the Hill? Yeah. Did you have like a healing moment? Was it an incredible experience to be where you came from knowing you could be staying at the Ritz if you wanted to? Was there any kind of like healing fun aspect to that? Like having walked by areas as a kid and
Yeah. I mean, dude, shooting Boston was unbelievable to me. I mean, it just was like the greatest. Yeah. It was incredible. So I grew up in this neighborhood that was known for anybody when I was growing up for like violence and bank robbing. Okay.
Particularly armored car. Yes. That's what they people So when I I went to this lovely school out in the suburbs every day and there would be kids sometimes who their parents would let them come over and play in my neighborhood
cuz they thought Charles Town was too dangerous. And so every time I meet somebody I'm like well I'm from Charle Town. And I'm like but it's not you know it's it's a lovely neighborhood. It's not up there not about bank robbing. It's not violent. It's totally changed. It's totally different place. So then I get this offer for this show where I play a guy from Charles Town who's a bank robber from the '90s. And I was like, so now I'm going to be propagating the same image and like I've been telling everybody it's not.
You want to make your neighborhood proud. Like you guys want to make Michigan proud. It's a big part of who you guys are
and you want to be able to go home and let people recognize that you're going out into the world and representing the community well. And I felt that way when I was there doing
but I had the experience. I didn't work in Michigan, but there was a very kind of amazing experience I had just visiting Aaron one time cuz when I was a kid, my mother would take us on Saturdays or Sundays and she'd drive us through this certain area of like Bloomfield Hills and she'd pull up to a house and she'd go, "Okay, that person went to college, right? This person went to college." Like her point was like, "If you want to be here, like this is how you get here, right?" So that was my childhood like kind of coveting this whole and I was visiting Aaron. In fact, I was riding his motorcycle and we were passing this stretch on this lake everyone wants to live on and I was seeing these houses I used to stare at and I just I think it's really hard to internalize success whether it's because you're always looking at the next thing you want to accomplish or whatever it is. It's been hard for me to internalize
it and I just had this moment where I was looking at these houses and I I was like no way I could live here now.
Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I I needed that like I needed from where I was from to recognize like oh if I chose I could live and I was like oh my god and this is 20 years of working and I never had that feeling but I just had that it was just an incredible feeling to go like oh I could actually [ __ ] live here.
I just wanted to be like I just want to be a great actor like that's what for me that's my version of success is just be a great actor. That's why you're better than
And no, I just wanted a nice house. I just want to be a great I just want to be a great actor and like in Boston there is a thing like they they do care about that.
Yeah. You know, like they do really respect that. Yeah. Being good. And like so there was something nice about being home like I'm going to do I'm going to be I'm so good that I can be on this set in Boston and I promise you I'm going to represent Boston and Charle Town with the sense of like veracity that you guys know and demand. That's what I felt really great.
Yeah, that's rad. Which is what you want to do for everything, by the way, with every character. You know, you have to know that there's somebody out there that's demanding a certain level of authenticity, and you have to be a little scared
to let them down. To let them down. Yeah. Jonathan Tucker, I love you. Thanks, dude. This was so fun. Great.
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Who speaks in "Jonathan Tucker | Mom's Car"?
Dak Shepard (Host), Aaron Beman (Host), Jonathan Tucker (Guest).
What is "Jonathan Tucker | Mom's Car" about?
Jonathan Tucker discusses his career, notable roles, and the irony of his past interviews happening in a car, touching on projects like Westworld, City on a Hill, Kingdom, The Virgin Suicides, Texas Chainsaw Massacre, and American Hostage, while briefly venting about a Hollywood shopping center.
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